A British Man's Take on Debt, Saving & Investing

A Fundamental Question – Answered?

Posted on September 21, 2009 by Lee

Earlier on this month I questioned whether to start saving for the sole purpose of buying a house, or going back to renting and continuing with the freedom to both save and invest, once I’ve paid off my debts.

At the time I didn’t have an answer, but I think I have made up my mind.

I will return to renting. Here’s why.

House prices remain inflated. Despite the credit crunch, house prices have not fallen very much at all compared to their explosive growth over the previous 9 years. While the term doesn’t fit precisely, the fact that property prices are reportedly on the increase again after “slumping” in my view is merely a dead cat bounce.

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A mortgage is expensive. My generation has all but been priced out of house-buying, and the current bubble house prices remain in keep this so.  Even an interest only mortgage works out more expensive than the equivalent rental cost, and that’s even before taking into account the maintenance costs of buying rather than renting and other sundry ownership-related expenses.

I want to invest. Virtually all sources I have researched agree that financial freedom cannot be achieved by saving alone. If my desire to retire early is to become a reality, my money will need to work very hard for me and I cannot do this while tied to paying an expensive mortgage for an overpriced property. This therefore means that realistically any purchase of a house needs to be entirely made with cash once the market finally relents and corrects (or Gordon Brown stops shoring up the bubble, whichever happens first).

My inheritance may enable this. I hope not to have to cross this particular bridge for a while yet, but my grandmother left me a sum when she died. This was invested further in property by my parents and now (even post-crash) stands at around three times its original value in today’s money.

My father has a reasonable property portfolio that will one day hopefully pass to me, along with a unique liftetime accumulation of rare collectibles that may fetch anywhere from £5 to £1 million at auction depending on the day.

On my mother’s side I also have a share of their existing property.

If the figures I have are even remotely correct, then I have quite a tidy sum of future wealth to be realised at some stage, although the worth of that will vary greatly depending on when it becomes cashable, thanks to inflation. While I hope for the higher estimate, even the lower will enable the purchase of a nice property, with probably 50% still unused. The more left over the better as it’d be an excellent headstart on my compounding goals and investment plans.

All said however, I’m not in the habit of counting money I don’t have so while these figures are comforting, they may as well be written in monopoly money for the moment. The existance of possible inheritance a decade or more down the road does not change the fact I am still almost £5,000 in debt now and have no cash in savings that isn’t already earmarked for debt elimination.

My revised plan then is continue to work my way out of debt, finish my divorce, save hard for a further 12 months while resident with my parents – taking advantage of the minimal overheads that provides – and then look for a small rental property much closer to work. This will enable me to cut my diesel bill considerably as well as cut the time it takes me to get to work and back home.

Is this a sensible strategy? Would you do different?

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6 to “A Fundamental Question – Answered?”

  1. Monevator says:

    Wow, you’re sorted if you’re going to hit that kind of inheritance Lee.

    Assuming it and your post retirement income goal both compounds at least at the rate of inflation, a tax-free income of at least £20,000 a year in today’s money is headed you’re way – possibly very much more, depending.

    In your position I’d dedicate a lot of time and effort to figuring how to affect that transfer with the minimal of inheritance tax due, which as you know you need to start doing years ahead.

    My parents are in more modest position and I’ve anyway told them both to spend everything as far as I’m concerned – not in a mean way (I just re-read that!) but in terms of I think they sacrificed enough for me already, and I’d rather they had a comfortable old age.

    I appreciate all families operate according to different beliefs though. :)

    Good luck.

    • Lee says:

      I agree the IHT avoidance would be well-timed to get into place now, but at the same time I am enjoying attempting to “get out of debt and get rich” on my own. I don’t want to rely on money that may not come for another 20-30 years, or may not materialise at all (it isn’t all that uncommon for weird things to happen in wills and on reading find everything left to the Battersea Dogs Home or similar!). If I can make myself financially sound and on the road to being rich alone, then any windfalls will just speed things up.

      If that makes any sense at all.

  2. Hey Lee – Good post. Two things:

    1) Definitely keep on renting! Homeownership is expensive, and it’s not just b/c of the mortgage! Trust me on this one mate. Keep FREE, and settle down with propertly only when you have 30% of the value saved up, and you’ve found a job you know you want to be at for 5+ years.

    2) Strike all thoughts of inheritance out of your mind, and planning completely. Even thinking about it, is relying on it! Don’t think about it at all.

    Resist the temptation! :) You can see some of my property info in today’s post at FS. But, as you can see, there was a precipitous decline this past 18 months, and only recently a rebound. Thank goodness I wasn’t checking, cuz that would be depressing!

    • Lee says:

      @Samurai – What inheritance? :)

      It’s true that renting really is the way to go, particularly at the moment. A nice fat deposit and a correctly timed purchase with a solid job is the only sensible way.

      In terms of economics, I am working on a post that’ll be out in a day or two with my predictions for our economy next year. It’s depressing reading (and writing). It will be interesting to come back to them in 12 months and see how right (or wrong) I was!

  3. Hey Monevator – Actually, I told my parents the exact same thing! Spend EVERYTHING they have and leave me nothing. They deserve it, and worked for 40 years to obtain their things.

    The main thing we can give our parents is piece of mind that we will be fine.

    Lee – Nice answer! lol.

    • Lee says:

      If I could suggest that to them, I think I would.

      Unfortunately The Collection is still being worked on and I don’t think dad will part with any of it anytime soon. The property is also his retirement fund (rental income), so again not really for enjoying per se. The house my mum lives in isn’t really a cashable asset to them either.

      That said, my parents want for nothing. They’re just enjoying their lives as they know how.



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